tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21166579.post4031082728050616257..comments2024-02-19T08:12:53.815-05:00Comments on The Right Thing: Three cheers and you're outJeffrey L. Seglinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15648051034425906705noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21166579.post-26271849866217026372012-07-10T17:10:57.636-04:002012-07-10T17:10:57.636-04:00While you made some good points in your article on...While you made some good points in your article on excessive cheering vs excessive restraint, I think you missed a point. How long since you attended a high school graduation? The unruly behavior starts with the kids, who sneak in tortillas (they make great Frisbees), beach balls, and even liquor under those caps and gowns. If you frisk the kids in the pre-ceremony gathering area, their buddies hand them stuff during the processional. It continues with the families and friends in the stands, who disrupt the ceremonies with air horns, bullhorns, vuvuzuelas (sp?), screams and shouts. A simple 45 minute ceremony turns into 90 minutes of intense crowd control. I'm sure if you were at the graduations, these people arrested or removed weren't just "cheering," they were prematurely turning a ceremony into a celebration. <br /><br />As for punishing students for parent's misbehavior, that's not a matter of misplaced accountability. An excessively cheering family was never told by the student of the potential consequences, either on purpose or through the fault of the STUDENT. They have been told the rules, multiple times in multiple venues, about behavioral expectations during graduation. And every year, the ceremony is as close to chaos as you let the students and parents push it.<br /><br />Volunteer to help with next June's local high school graduation. Then write another article in a year. I dare you.<br /><br />Petaluma High School<br />Science TeacherSusan Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21166579.post-22841125576307877652012-07-04T02:33:20.063-04:002012-07-04T02:33:20.063-04:00I agree with the previous posts. On what basis has...I agree with the previous posts. On what basis has it become OK or right make unnecessary rules because the power to do so exists? There was no danger, no problem AT ALL as far as one can tell.<br /><br />And arrest? for boisterous enthusiasm? Now it seems anyone can be arrested at any time for being "disorderly"-- all that is required is someone doesn’t like it.<br /><br />Chilling indeed.ECS Esq.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21166579.post-13976774997221084282012-07-02T10:11:12.896-04:002012-07-02T10:11:12.896-04:00Does it matter in the case of Cinci that the paren...Does it matter in the case of Cinci that the parents and graduates were informed ahead of time what would happen if there was "Excessive" cheering? I believe parents and graduates needed to sign a slip indicating that they were aware of the consequences for not following the rules (I believe the grad's mom said that she didn't read the paper even though she signed it). Now of course one could get into arguments about how to define "Excessive" or whether or not anyone who could possibly attend such a ceremony (Grandparent, etc.) was adequately notified of the consequences. I guess my point is, if the parents didn't like the policy ahead of time or didn't read the paper, isn't there a significant weight on them to have challenged the policy at that time, not later on? <br /><br />Regards,<br />Dr. Bryan R. Drost<br />Ohiodrostbrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06503557423682718605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21166579.post-27962179185718340312012-07-02T02:27:07.116-04:002012-07-02T02:27:07.116-04:00My God Jeffrey!
I can't imagine that under an...My God Jeffrey!<br /><br />I can't imagine that under any circumstance that it would be reasonable to either arrest family members for cheering or withhold the diploma from a graduate due to the purported misdeeds of another.<br /><br />I understand the need to preserve dignity and decorum for all involved but how full of yourself do you have to be to place the logistics of your ceremony above the well earned celebrations of the recipients... Is this about you or about them?!?<br /><br />On the former incident, if spectators were informed that they would be removed from the auditorium for cheering, then they should be removed from the auditorium, not arrested. What an incredible waste of limited taxpayer dollars than pursuing this case!<br /><br />On the latter incident, how incredibly vague is a term such as "excessive cheering" and by whose standard do we measure? Regardless, it is completely unjust to penalize the student for a spectator's misdeed.<br /><br />If this sort of limited thought process is representative of the administrations of Florence and Mt. Healthy High Schools, then I applaud Ms. Cooper and Mr. Cornist for escaping relatively unscathed. Our students deserve better than these incidents.<br /><br />William Jacobson, esq<br />Anaheim, CAWilliam Jacobsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21166579.post-47667414882480636872012-07-01T12:32:02.086-04:002012-07-01T12:32:02.086-04:00I beg to differ with this comment, I just watched ...I beg to differ with this comment, I just watched the graduation of my granddaughter on live internet and saw a few graduates hug the presenter, call to their friends, pause for pictures from family, acknowledge cheers from friends, etc., and no harm was done and no one complained. In my opinion, some of our school authorities have gotten into the picture way too much, setting too many rules for graduation and try to over-control what has to be the highlight of each graduate's young life. Let them and the families celebrate. Stop being a killjoy.<br /><br />Charlie Seng<br />Lancaster, SCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21166579.post-44837299863261995432012-07-01T11:55:12.431-04:002012-07-01T11:55:12.431-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.drostbrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06503557423682718605noreply@blogger.com